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Re:Modeling a small Yorkshire station 27/01/12 06:51 PM (permalink)
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Now a few questions for the experienced modellers.

Paint, are acrylic and/or enamel modelling paints OK for painting a building that is going to be outdoors? Are they weatherproof/sun proof enough and if so what sort of maintenance work intervals do you see (touch ups each year?) And final question, do people finish the painting with a lacquer or anything?

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Jason - I've used different paints on different models - Depended on what I had to hand Real Big Smile
 
For the station I built for Mike I used enamel paints (Humbrol) and did finish off with a matt varnish overspray
I generally use enamels for buildings outdoors - although I do find the acrylics from "Games Workshop" great to work with also
 
For this building I used Halfords Acrylic car sprays as I had a large area to cover
 

 
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    Re:Modeling a small Yorkshire station 27/01/12 09:15 PM (permalink)
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    Very Ian, thanks.
     
    I'm not really sure what colours the station should be, the only colour photo I have is a late BR picture. I'm aiming for an earlier setting as my coaches will mainly be in L&Y livery. As it was Methley Joint was a joint railway I'm not sure which firm was dominant, so I'm going to stick with the L&Y theme and combinations of tan and brown for buildings etc with black signs and name boards.
     
    We'll see how it looks!
     
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      Re:Modeling a small Yorkshire station 28/01/12 01:46 AM (permalink)
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      A lot of paints made for models don't hold up well outdoors. The paints I use are craft acrylics, either Apple Barrel brand or Craft Smart. I also give almost everything a top coat of Krylon UV resistant matte finish.  But these paints probably aren't available in the UK.
       
      I also use exterior grade latex house paint for some things. Since this is made for outdoor use it holds up probably better than anything else. I usually get the small sample size jars.
       
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        Re:Modeling a small Yorkshire station 28/01/12 01:54 AM (permalink)
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        Will it be getting one of those namesake man eating mops? I've always wondered how to model them - without it coming out more cartoon-ish looking than they already are.

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          Re:Modeling a small Yorkshire station 28/01/12 03:45 AM (permalink)
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          I'm going to build a row of 4 terraced houses but I cant get the issues of garden rail... A link or some pics here would be fantastic......
           

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            Re:Modeling a small Yorkshire station 29/01/12 04:56 AM (permalink)
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            Mik


            Will it be getting one of those namesake man eating mops? I've always wondered how to model them - without it coming out more cartoon-ish looking than they already are.



            Mik are you sure that isn't Gomez Addams cousin Itt?
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              Re:Modeling a small Yorkshire station 29/01/12 07:51 AM (permalink)
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                 That's amazing and has inspired me very much.   Well done.  There is some superb modeling on here. 
               
                 A few more from Mr Sharples, I knew him before he was famous you know
               
               






               
                 The big Brewery is out all year, and has been for about 5 years (Ian will know for sure, at Ians).   The station building is at mine (all built by Ian) and comes into a shed from about Nov' to April or so and other than a window frame missing has been fine for about 5 years too, so I'm sure yours will be fine outside.
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                Re:Modeling a small Yorkshire station 29/01/12 11:15 AM (permalink)
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                Wow. Theyre are superb.

                Very much interested in the paint question. Seems only prescion/Phoenix do British paint colours and only in enamel.
                 
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                  Re:Modeling a small Yorkshire station 30/01/12 09:15 AM (permalink)
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                  tramcar trev


                  I'm going to build a row of 4 terraced houses but I cant get the issues of garden rail... A link or some pics here would be fantastic......


                   
                  Hi Trev
                   
                  As I wrote the article for garden Rail I can't re-create it here (unless Tag Gorton says I can...... (Tag is the editor of Garden Rail))
                   
                  In between times - take a look at the link below which is for a station I built using the same methods as the terraced houses
                  http://www.s123933366.websitehome.co.uk/pluspages/Web_Pages/page55.html
                   
                  Here's a picture of the finished terraced houses

                   

                  I used a number of kits from "Jackson's Minatures" - Heres a link - http://www.jacksonsminiatures.com/
                  Go to - "Garden Railway Buildings" - scroll to the bottom and the terraced house kits are there.
                   
                  Jackson's Minatures is owned by Steve Jackson - Who posts on the forum as "400Parker"
                   
                  Hope that helps
                   
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                    Re:Modeling a small Yorkshire station 30/01/12 11:04 AM (permalink)
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                     A few more from Mr Sharples, I knew him before he was famous you know



                     
                    Absolutely fabulous....what a master!

                     
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                      Re:Modeling a small Yorkshire station 30/01/12 11:20 AM (permalink)
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                      A few more from Mr Sharples, I knew him before he was famous you know




                      Absolutely fabulous....what a master!


                      That brickwork almost makes you want to model British outline does it Mike Roll On Floor Laughing
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                        Re:Modeling a small Yorkshire station 30/01/12 11:39 AM (permalink)
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                        Netty



                        A few more from Mr Sharples, I knew him before he was famous you know




                        Absolutely fabulous....what a master!


                        That brickwork almost makes you want to model British outline does it Mike Roll On Floor Laughing

                         
                        Oooooh I do have this thing for a nice bit of brick........................

                         
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                          Re:Modeling a small Yorkshire station 30/01/12 11:54 AM (permalink)
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                          A few more from Mr Sharples, I knew him before he was famous you know




                          Absolutely fabulous....what a master!

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                            Re:Modeling a small Yorkshire station 30/01/12 06:33 PM (permalink)
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                            tramcar trev


                            I'm going to build a row of 4 terraced houses but I cant get the issues of garden rail... A link or some pics here would be fantastic......


                            Trev
                            I assume you are going to use Oz buildings for your layout.
                            I would recommend having a look at
                            A Guide to Identifying Australian Architecture by Richard Apperly.
                             
                            Dick was a lecturer of mine at the Uni of NSW and was very down to earth. It is very to the point, with no architectural crap and ideal for high lighting the building details that modelers like to home in on.
                            Should be available from ACT Library Service.
                            Having said that many UK prototype terraces will work in NSW as the Sydney Building Regulations were based on the London Building Acts. Which is one reason why Sydney is so different to Melbourne.
                             Small detail on post 29, It would be more typical for the back garden wall to be integral with the outbuilding, but of course you would also have to add in a 2’x2’ low level door for Paddington.
                            Good Luck
                             
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                              Re:Modeling a small Yorkshire station 30/01/12 06:44 PM (permalink)
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                              Fantastic Pic’s.
                               I love the detail.
                              From what I have seen its very difficult to model a run down building like the brewery, and keep it dynamic which is exactly what you have done. 
                               
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                                Re:Modeling a small Yorkshire station 30/01/12 11:23 PM (permalink)
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                                tramcar trev


                                I'm going to build a row of 4 terraced houses but I cant get the issues of garden rail... A link or some pics here would be fantastic......


                                Trev
                                I assume you are going to use Oz buildings for your layout.
                                I would recommend having a look at
                                A Guide to Identifying Australian Architecture by Richard Apperly.

                                Dick was a lecturer of mine at the Uni of NSW and was very down to earth. It is very to the point, with no architectural crap and ideal for high lighting the building details that modelers like to home in on.
                                Should be available from ACT Library Service.
                                Having said that many UK prototype terraces will work in NSW as the Sydney Building Regulations were based on the London Building Acts. Which is one reason why Sydney is so different to Melbourne.
                                Small detail on post 29, It would be more typical for the back garden wall to be integral with the outbuilding, but of course you would also have to add in a 2’x2’ low level door for Paddington.
                                Good Luck


                                okkkkkkkkk... Oz buildings is??
                                After looking at the mindblowingy superb work here I have no chance of even getting close to that. My intention is to build a row as per those in the pics and  have the rivet counters eyes drawn more to the cast iron lace that I'll be able to etch from brass sheet. I have a few sheets of vac formed plastic sheet with roof tiles, weatherboard, brick etc and my method was going to be to make a mould of these ( in casting plaster) and then make up what "sheeting" I need in fibreglass, which will withstand the rigours of use and exposure. This will give me the surface texture i need. Then I can paint the lot....Sydney Terrace houses were rarely exposed brick/masonry ( thank YOU for that) all were limed in mostly browns and earthy tones, I'm talking in their original state.... I'll duck into the Library and check out Apperly's book. But another sypathetic resource is Balmain Council, I'v spoken to them re modelling the Dummy and they were most eager to help out sent me photos and even specs ( that STM didn't seem to have - even though the dummy is apparently there) and they seem keen to help so I'll chat to them about terrace houses they would have plans and dimensions I would suspect they will jump at the chance to have Grove st rebuilt in G scale....
                                 That brickwork just makes my blood run cold trying to do that WOW, simply stunning.... I had enough of the "doing it brick by brick" paving my terminus. I used to work with a guy Les Whalley ( anyone remember Les?) and he used to build brick by brick tile by tile - in HO under a large maggy lamp....
                                I'm inspired and this is so inspiring...
                                 

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                                  Re:Modeling a small Yorkshire station 30/01/12 11:58 PM (permalink)
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                                  Sorry but I thought that this thread was about modelling a small Yorkshire station! Could the mods sort out the various tangles or has it gone too far?
                                  P.S. Bring back Redgates Clap Hands
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                                    Re:Modeling a small Yorkshire station 02/02/12 10:25 PM (permalink)
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                                    Looking at doing some roof detailing, first off some "lead" (ok tomato puree tube) flashing

                                     
                                    and then a test piece for the tiles. using roofing felt cut into small tiles and roofing felt adhesive, seems to work OK.
                                     

                                     
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                                      Re:Modeling a small Yorkshire station 02/02/12 10:38 PM (permalink)
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                                      a tip,, from station jades station. re the roofing felt tiles.. its easyer, to do a run, ie 10 in a row, instead offcutting individual tiles, cut a slit 3/4s of the way up,.so it looks like individual tiles, when layered on..
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                                        Re:Modeling a small Yorkshire station 03/02/12 12:33 AM (permalink)
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                                        The tiles do look impressive, most impressive. I'm about to try making sheets of shingles from the rounded ends of paddlepop sticks laid offest like tiles or in fact shingles....

                                        Pass the maggy lamp please!!!

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