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Leader 0-4-2ST, new live steam loco from Accucraft 22/07/10 03:05 PM (permalink)
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A few pictures of the engineering sample of Leader, now showing the straight chimney as well as the spark arrestor.  The loco comes with the spark arrestor chimney fitted and the straight chimney in the box for easy customer swapover, almost like 2 locos for the price of 1!
 
Happy steamings,
 
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    Re:Leader 0-4-2ST, new live steam loco from Accucraft 22/07/10 03:13 PM (permalink)
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      Re:Leader 0-4-2ST, new live steam loco from Accucraft 22/07/10 03:16 PM (permalink)
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      First thoughts "Nice, in fact very nice".

      When eare they due for delivery?
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        Re:Leader 0-4-2ST, new live steam loco from Accucraft 22/07/10 03:21 PM (permalink)
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        I really like the look of this John. What will be the minimum radius that it will run on? Also, what sort of dimensions will it be in relation to the old Edrig and Caradoc which I found to look a little too .... errr ........ chunky for my tastes?
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          Re:Leader 0-4-2ST, new live steam loco from Accucraft 22/07/10 03:37 PM (permalink)
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          Yes, Yes, I like it!

          But the big question is, what is the estimated price?
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            Re:Leader 0-4-2ST, new live steam loco from Accucraft 22/07/10 03:44 PM (permalink)
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            Yes I must admit I am falling deeply in love with this little loco, trying to think up excuses for it appearing as the carriage shed shunter at St Johns on the IMR!
             
            I have requested dimensions etc from Accucraft and will post when I get them.  I reckon 2' radius R1 curves ought to be OK with this type of wheel arrangement.
             
            Should be in the shops in December.
             
            The loco comes set to 45mm gauge but is supplied with a 32mm gauge pony truck in the accessory pack so owners can convert the loco to 32mm gauge if required. You will also note from the three quarter rear view that the loco is fitted with a water sight glass.
             
            Happy steamings,
             
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              Re:Leader 0-4-2ST, new live steam loco from Accucraft 22/07/10 03:48 PM (permalink)
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              Dannysfod


              Yes, Yes, I like it!

              But the big question is, what is the estimated price?

               
              List price for a manual one is a ballpark of £675 to£725 , so you could expect to see it discounted to somewhere around the £590 to £635 mark.  I reckon this makes it the lowest cost prototypical live steam loco in this scale, unless you know otherwise?
               
              We are waiting on information regarding the possibility and pricing of radio control.
               
              Length over coupling faces: 315mm
              Length over buffer beams: 255mm
              Extreme width (over cylinders): 113mm
              Extreme Height (over chimney): 157mm
              Weight: 3.2Kg
              Minimum Radius curve: R1 or 2 ft. The loco will go round this quite happily on its own but to pull some stock through
              a reverse curve will depend on the couplings on the stock.
               
              Happy steamings,
               
              John
               

               
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                Re:Leader 0-4-2ST, new live steam loco from Accucraft 22/07/10 04:17 PM (permalink)
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                Wow! A nifty little loco and as far as I am concerned a reasonable price.
                Like Mel I fancy a steamie (go on, take the wee) but found the available ones to beefy or the proportions were wrong, but this looks just right.
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                  Re:Leader 0-4-2ST, new live steam loco from Accucraft 22/07/10 04:58 PM (permalink)
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                  I ain't no expert but it looks like a re-release of their Excelsior model of which there is one for sale on E bay at the moment. Happy bidding.
                   
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                    Re:Leader 0-4-2ST, new live steam loco from Accucraft 22/07/10 05:06 PM (permalink)
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                    It is.
                     
                    With larger cylinders, superheater, water gauge glass, new rear end, regulator handle and no doubt a few other improvements.
                    <message edited by Doug on 22/07/10 05:10 PM>
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                      Re:Leader 0-4-2ST, new live steam loco from Accucraft 22/07/10 06:04 PM (permalink)
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                      I certainly prefer the regulator handle to the Hornby type knob and the straight chimney looks a lot better.The water level glass will prove very useful although they're not too accurate,a lovely looking engine I would say.Can't wait....Thumbs Up
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                        Re:Leader 0-4-2ST, new live steam loco from Accucraft 22/07/10 06:09 PM (permalink)
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                        John,
                        Do you know if it it'll have the flip over roof like Lawley?
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                          Re:Leader 0-4-2ST, new live steam loco from Accucraft 22/07/10 07:46 PM (permalink)
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                          Thanks for the extra info John. I've just compared the dimensions with my existing (electric) loco's and it's become VERY tempting.
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                            Re:Leader 0-4-2ST, new live steam loco from Accucraft 22/07/10 08:07 PM (permalink)
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                            well, it is really,
                            leader was the same, except it had a flat cab back.  But a good re release, one of the best accy locos IMHO

                            first page excelsior, link to leader page at bottom
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                              Re:Leader 0-4-2ST, new live steam loco from Accucraft 22/07/10 08:10 PM (permalink)
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                              Length over coupling faces: 315mm
                              Length over buffer beams: 255mm
                              Extreme width (over cylinders): 113mm
                              Extreme Height (over chimney): 157mm Weight: 3.2Kg

                               
                              Those dims., apart from the width which is a few m.m. bigger, are pretty much the same as Excelsior.
                               
                              The extra width maybe to do with the larger cyl bores. The rear bunker could be fabricated if it was wanted, it all hangs out over the coupling anyway.
                               
                              Looks good to me!
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                                Re:Leader 0-4-2ST, new live steam loco from Accucraft 22/07/10 08:35 PM (permalink)
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                                Sea Lion
                                 
                                Leader:
                                Length over coupling faces: 315mm
                                Length over buffer beams: 255mm
                                Extreme width (over cylinders): 113mm
                                Extreme Height (over chimney): 157mm 
                                 


                                Caradoc: 
                                Length over buffer beams: 260mm
                                Extreme width (over cylinders): 113mm
                                Extreme Height (over chimney): 161mm 
                                 
                                So only a few mm smaller than Caradoc!
                                 
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                                  Re:Leader 0-4-2ST, new live steam loco from Accucraft 22/07/10 08:36 PM (permalink)
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                                  i trust it has a larger flue tube and better burner !?
                                   
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                                    Re:Leader 0-4-2ST, new live steam loco from Accucraft 22/07/10 08:38 PM (permalink)
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                                    Doug


                                    Sea Lion
                                     
                                    Leader:
                                    Length over coupling faces: 315mm
                                    Length over buffer beams: 255mm
                                    Extreme width (over cylinders): 113mm
                                    Extreme Height (over chimney): 157mm 
                                     


                                    Caradoc: 
                                    Length over buffer beams: 260mm
                                    Extreme width (over cylinders): 113mm
                                    Extreme Height (over chimney): 161mm 


                                     
                                    So only a few mm smaller than Caradoc!
                                     


                                    Yes, but more in proportion to my eyes Doug.
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                                      Re:Leader 0-4-2ST, new live steam loco from Accucraft 22/07/10 08:40 PM (permalink)
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                                      I really like the look of this John. What will be the minimum radius that it will run on? Also, what sort of dimensions will it be in relation to the old Edrig and Caradoc which I found to look a little too .... errr ........ chunky for my tastes?

                                       
                                      I've just compared the dimensions and they are almost the same as Caradoc.  That begs the question:
                                      Where are the R/C gubbins going to be stored if there's a pony truck under the cab? 
                                       
                                      It is very desirable and I'll have to save my pennies up! 

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                                        Re:Leader 0-4-2ST, new live steam loco from Accucraft 22/07/10 10:17 PM (permalink)
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                                        It looks nicely in proportion and for for the money a relatively good representation of the real thing. The length is almost spot on but the width and height are slightly over scale, shouldn't be too noticeable though. 
                                         
                                        Leader never ran with a straight chimney and never carried Whipsnade blue livery, As far as I'm aware it's only ever been in Bowaters green but the Brazil class was popular as an export model so versions would have been seen around the World in many colours. It will have to be Bowaters green for me though I'm afraid.
                                         
                                        The main issue I think will be fitting the R/C gear in. There doesn't appear to be much room in there, I'll have to wait 'til I see one in the flesh.
                                         
                                        Is the boiler lagged, like the Countess? 
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