Attention all loggers!!! THIS is a log!

Chris M

Here's part of my mostly buddleia sourced log train.... 

 
Really looks the part Chris. I also use real branches of various trees suitably cut to size on my flat wagons.
 
Chris's photo reminds me of the wagons I saw being loaded on the Arosa line earlier this year....
 
 

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To anyone thinking of plastic look no further than chris m's piccie!

Funny i trod (i know clumsy oaf) on a bachmann tanker that is now a flat car stacked with timber...

Wow that log looks fake.  Logs come in different sizes depending on where they come from.  Eastern US the logs tended to be smaller then those out west.  Same is true for logs cut in different time periods. Logs tend to be bigger earlier on then today because today is usually second growth.  Just use branches from local trees.  Anything will work like apple, maple etc....  They dont add that much more weight.

minimans


Where I come from THAT is not a LOG this is a LOG............................................

 
Apologies to Croc Dundee................

Yeah? I reckon that those folk are all g scale with a 20" log!

I think any thing that makes a load is ok,



But i must admit some look better than others



So untill i have enough time to do all the things i want to do
any thing goes. (well any thing i can get hold of)

And if any body has any Resin or Plastic logs they don't want
send me a PM i will be happy to accept any type
and happy to pay, i have another 5 log loads to make up
and all the bushes round here have already been stripped of striaght
branches

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Shawn


Wow that log looks fake.  Logs come in different sizes depending on where they come from.  Eastern US the logs tended to be smaller then those out west.  Same is true for logs cut in different time periods. Logs tend to be bigger earlier on then today because today is usually second growth.  Just use branches from local trees.  Anything will work like apple, maple etc....  They dont add that much more weight.

Nice pic, great looking line

For logging photos do a web search on Darius Kinsey.
The trees on the north west coast of the US were huge!!!!!!!
Lots of geared locos as well.

Granitechops

minimans


Where I come from THAT is not a LOG this is a LOG............................................ 

 
Apologies to Croc Dundee................

So,   why did they drop a tree like that? to form a wind break? to make a bridge? I see there are horses on top of it!!
 
I doubt there would be a mill with a moving saw bench capable of turning that into planks!!
 
or would they cut it into 30 ft sections on site, saw it in to quarters or 16ths?  & then drag it to the mill
take some horse power to move that
or was it a publicity stunt for bragging rights   
 
Paul,  anyone,     any ideas???
 

THAT is a coastal redwood or Sequoia these trees are HUGE and over 5,000 years old at that size, up here in Northern California they are all over the place, mostly replants or shoots from a clearcut logging operation but there are clusters of old growth trees which are truly majestic, I'm not much of a tree lover I think they get in the way of a good view!!
 
If you want to know more I suggest a Google of California coastal redwoods or sequoia and logging. I'm also a bit of a student of the sailing ship's that used to transfer the cut lumber from the local mills to the city of San Francisco, They were called Dog hole schooner's as the north coast up here is rugged to say the least the little schooner's came into tiny bays and inlets and the lumber was loaded by means of rope and pulley strung across the bay/inlet. and as some one commented earlier that tree was cut down by hand!! and then dragged out to the narrow gauge or flopped into the river to float down............................
 
 
This is where we camp sometimes It's all gone now of course but you can follow the old narrow gauge or if you climb the cliffs the giant rings for the loading slings are still in there........
 
http://casparcommons.org/HHistory.php
 

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Granitechops

ROSS


A closer look at that large tree  - it seems to have already been sawn and re assembled.  Look at the end (right) and the length.  There seem to be "plank" lines where they sit on each other.
Could be wrong tho'

Well we were trying to work out how they cut it down,  probably started with axes to open up   a working slot,  but unless you have an enormous wedge opening with that width of trunk, swinging an axe horizontally into a narrow opening would be very tiring & dangerous & uneconomic energy wise, so we thought that they then put wedges in to keep it open & used a long,  ( 30ft ? ) 2 handled saw, which would leave those marks on the end, some of which are not parallel.
Whatever, it was a hard slog, & men were either            Fit          or              Dead!
 

These were tough guys.

Basically to cut these trees you would just use axes and a crosscut saw.
They would hackout an undercut with axes and saw thru the rest.
The loggers would stand on spring boards quite a bit up from the ground level and use a saw just wide enough
to get 1 or 2 feet of movement on the saw.
After felling they would crosscut the trunks into managable lengths.

Pic showing the undercut underway

http://www.krisweb.com/krisbigriver/krisdb/html/krisweb/history/hpbig70tif.jpg

and this is how you move em

http://www.fs.fed.us/wildecology/decaid/decaid_background/op_logging_bigload.jpg

I always wanted to be a lumberjack. Leaping from tree to tree.................................................Well somebody had to post it...............
 
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=clPYfaTvHT0
 

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Granitechops

I doubt there would be a mill with a moving saw bench capable of turning that into planks!!
 
or would they cut it into 30 ft sections on site, saw it in to quarters or 16ths?  & then drag it to the mill  

Probably cut into manageable lengths. Drill a couple holes, then split it with black powder. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kldc_R9yfmQ.

As for the rest....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PcEto_Q8MlY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zug5NAEGZ8g

Wow.thanks for those links Allen, very interesting!!

Just watched this one again
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PcEto_Q8MlY
very interesting way of unloading logs at 9.50, 
the track alongside the mill pool is on a cant so that when unchained e a man with a pole can push the logs right off the wagons with ease,
 
has anyone  ever modeled this feature?

Granitechops


Just watched this one again
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PcEto_Q8MlY
very interesting way of unloading logs at 9.50, 
the track alongside the mill pool is on a cant so that when unchained e a man with a pole can push the logs right off the wagons with ease,
 
has anyone  ever modeled this feature?

I tried once Don, but I had trouble making a lake that sloped .

yb281

Granitechops


Just watched this one again
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PcEto_Q8MlY
very interesting way of unloading logs at 9.50, 
the track alongside the mill pool is on a cant so that when unchained e a man with a pole can push the logs right off the wagons with ease,
 
has anyone  ever modeled this feature?

I tried once Don, but I had trouble making a lake that sloped .

 was that a typo Mel,  a lake that slopped??    did you see the bow waves, replicate that, now that would be impressive      

I have always like the log flumes that were used to get logs down a mountain to the lake.  Logs would race down these flumes at incredible speeds.  I have been toying with the idea of making one on my layout.  Im currently working on my spar tree and high line.

Home of the Redwood book

It's well worth googling logging railroad pictures; you'll find a bit of everything.
 
I found a shot somewhere of some very long logs on disconnects that were so long (had been tall) that they possivtiely sagged between the disconnects.
 
Equally, I think I've said before, some railroads used disconnects exactly as the label says, with the logs joining the trucks, and the roosters used to connect the pairs, other used them the way that we tend to use them in model form, with each pair joined coupling to coupling with a rooster underneath the logs.
 
I've used mother nature's logs, from different sources - most of 'em are actually twigs, but Holly is quite a good source as it tends to grow straightish, but has a few knots. The first two wagons have Holly logs, the others are bits of Alder & Silver Birch - I've treated them all with Cuprinol, 'cos I don't fancy trolling through the woods for replacement twigs every couple of years
 

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here is the best way to cut your logs
fast and effcient

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ereEhTuBlwA&feature=related

spike


here is the best way to cut your logs
fast and effcient

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ereEhTuBlwA&feature=related

Wasted on a chain saw - should be on Wod's bike